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Asking For a Friend - What Actually Happens in Heaven?

Luke 23:39-43

One of the criminals who were hanged there kept deriding him and saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 

But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed have been condemned justly, for we are getting what we deserve for our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong.” 

Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come in your kingdom.” He replied, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”


We don’t talk much about heaven. And when we do, it’s not with much substance — like that old Norman Greenbaum song: the place we go when we die, the place that’s “the best.” as if heaven were some never-ending worship service in the sky. Some ask the question why talk about heaven at all?

The argument goes: “Why waste time on heaven when there’s so much work to do here on earth? Doesn’t talk of heaven distract us from fixing what’s broken now?” And that feels like a fair point. Why talk about heaven today when two children were killed this week while praying in pews at a church in Minnesota? Shouldn’t we be advocating for gun reform and better access to mental health care? Of course we should.

But thinking about heaven doesn’t have to be an escape hatch from the world’s pain. It isn’t wishful thinking or some bribe for good behavior. Rather, how are we to make things on earth as they are in heaven if we don’t have the slightest idea what heaven is like?

C.S. Lewis once wrote: “Aim at heaven and you’ll get earth thrown in. Aim at earth and you’ll get neither.”

So it is worth our time, especially today, to ask what really happens in heaven — to have a picture vivid enough to stir us. Because maybe, just maybe, with a stronger and more compelling image of heaven, we can make this earth resemble it more, and less the kind of place where parents are afraid to send their children to school.

But first, let me free us of two things.

First, heaven is not a never-ending worship service. Could you imagine showing up only to find yourself stuck in an endless 1st or 2nd service — refrains on repeat, blaring organ music, the same prayers over and over? That's not what I want to do for eternity! Surely there are better ways to be with God.

Second, much of Christian tradition describes our final fulfillment as the beatific vision—seeing God face to face, fully and directly, instead of through the symbols and metaphors we cling to now. 

But until then, all we really have are symbols, theological concepts, and imagery: the golden streets, the white robes, the river of life, the crowns of glory. They’re not literal blueprints of the place; they’re faithful attempts to describe the indescribable, whether they come from the Bible or the best theologians.

Which means we’re free. Free to use Scripture, tradition, and our own lives to imagine heaven faithfully. We should take our own reverent best guess at what it might be like. And that’s what I want to do with you today, my reverent best guess at what happens in heaven through four images.

Josh Noem, a Catholic writer and baseball lover deserves credit for the inspiration of this idea. He made a post that went viral with the caption “I collect images of walk-off home run hitters rounding third because they are an image of heaven.”

On a Sunday in August seven years ago, a rookie named David Bote stepped into the batter’s box for the Chicago Cubs. The Cubs were down by three. Bases loaded. Two outs. Two strikes. And then — on the fifth pitch — Bote crushed a ball to center field. A walk-off grand slam.

That night, the Cubs released a photo of Bote rounding third and heading home. You can see the ecstasy on his teammates’ faces, the sheer joy of his coach, the wild cheering of fans — even Bill Murray was crying in the stands.

I think heaven begins like that. The saints who have gone before us surround you, waiting to embrace you. You will be one of the saints waiting to embrace others! The multitude too great to count, like Revelation describes, erupts in cheers. And at the end of it all, God — like that third-base coach — looks you in the eye and says, “Well done, good and faithful servant.”

It’s Jesus who hit the home run. But we get to round the bases and go home. And when we do, there will be celebration.

If the first thing in heaven is celebration, then the second is healing.

Bandaids are a big deal in my house right now. Every time someone gets a boo-boo, my son Clive thinks we need a bandaid — the dog included. Stubbed toe, scraped knee, headache, doesn’t matter: everything and everyone gets a bandaid.

But there are no bandaids in heaven.  From the prophet Isaiah to the vision in Revelation, one of Scripture’s clearest promises about heaven is that God will wipe away every tear, 

that there will be no more pain, no more suffering. Paul says in 1 Corinthians that our bodies will be raised — the same bodies, but transformed. The hurts, the failures, the agony we carry will be changed into glory.

And if Jesus’ resurrection is any sign, we will still bear our scars in heaven — they’ll still mark our story — but they will no longer hurt us. And the same is true, not only for us, but for all living things, in fact all of creation. Isn’t that what we all hope for? Healing for ourselves, for our loved ones, for all creation.

In heaven, there will be no bandaids. And because there will be no wounds left to cover and healing will be complete, there will be no need for hope either.

After we celebrate and heal, we feast! yes – there will be eating in heaven… I was concerned. But not just any meal, a feast. One of the most beautiful pictures of this comes from the story Babette’s Feast. Babette, a refugee from Paris, lands in a nowhere Norwegian town where she is taken in by two devout Lutheran sisters. Their father had been the pastor of the village’s only church, but since his death, the congregation had withered, burdened by grudges and old conflicts. 

For what would have been his 100th birthday, Babette offers to prepare a great feast. What begins as a stiff, awkward gathering soon becomes something altogether different. 

As the wine is poured and the rich food is savored, something more than good cooking is at work: hearts begin to soften, laughter replaces suspicion, and forgiveness flows as freely as the wine. What seemed impossible at the beginning of the meal—reconciliation— happened, 

all by the time dessert was served.

There will be feasting in heaven and I think it will be like this feast. As Isaiah envisions, we will sit at the table with those with whom we’ve been estranged, even those we never imagined we could forgive—or be forgiven by. It will not happen in an instant. But as the feast unfolds, course by course, grace will work on us. Understanding will deepen. Forgiveness will be given and received. 

And by the time the great banquet reaches its end, all will be reconciled—fully, finally, and joyfully.

I know I haven’t answered all the questions: When do we go to heaven? Is it right away, or do we sleep first? What about our relationships — will they change? Will I still have to… you know poop!… since there will be all this feasting? There are more questions than I can count.

But here’s the promise I hold onto when the questions overwhelm me: fishing in paradise.

Of all the images, metaphors, and concepts we have, the clearest promise comes from Jesus’ words to the thief on the cross: “Today you will be with me in paradise.” That promise isn’t just for one person, or one moment. It’s for you, for me, for every sinner who has been crucified by their sin and raised to new life in Christ.

I believe, then, what happens in heaven is this: it’s you, and you, and you, and me, and Jesus will be there too. We’ll learn, we’ll grow, and grace will continue to work on us, until, like that John Prine song says, we forgive each other — over and over, until we both turn blue. And then, maybe, we’ll whistle and go fishing in heaven. We will live together in harmony, all of us, all creation, with Jesus in paradise.

You see, when it comes to paradise (heaven) it’s not the questions that really matter, but the promises. And the perfect promise is “today you will be with me in paradise”. 

And that promise is better than any reverent best guess we can come up with.

If only we celebrated each other now, if we worked toward healing now — for our neighbors, for our world, for ourselves — 

if we sought reconciliation today rather than waiting, then perhaps what we hope happens in heaven could happen right here on earth. 

Maybe then we wouldn’t be so afraid to send our children to school because earth would be like those images, those promises we have of heaven.

As you leave today, these images are laid out in the welcome area. Take the one you need for the week ahead — the one that encourages you, challenges you, or comforts you. 

Let it be the image that inspires you to make earth a little more like heaven.

Amen.

"Law, Gospel, and Dreamers" – Romans 13:8-14

Romans 13:8-14

Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery; You shall not murder; You shall not steal; You shall not covet"; and any other commandment, are summed up in this word, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore, love is the fulfilling of the law. Besides this, you know what time it is, how it is now the moment for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we became believers; the night is far gone, the day is near. Let us then lay aside the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us live honorably as in the day, not in reveling and drunkenness, not in debauchery and licentiousness, not in quarreling and jealousy. Instead, put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.


One of the most fundamental facets of Christianity is the theological understanding of law. I’ll do my best to distill two millennia of teaching on the subject and then I’ll show you how it applies to a current controversy in our country.

In theology, the concept of “law” can refer to two things: 1) the way things are; and/or 2) the way things ought to be.

Gravity is an example of law in the sense of “the way things are.” If you lift an item with a mass heavier than air high into the sky and drop it, it will fall. That’s the way God created it. It is law and this law should inform your decisions. In other words, you shouldn’t jump off a 20-story building expecting to float or fly. This would be a bad decision because going against the law would lead to suffering and death.

We do well to allow science and mathematics to define the laws of the ways things are. 

Science and mathematics; however, are not as helpful in defining the laws of the ways things ought to be. For insight into this second part of law, we turn to God’s Word.

God’s Word is the divine force that created the universe and declared each aspect of creation “good.” Our creation stories in Genesis tell us that human beings are not just good, but we are actually made in the image of God. And yet, as represented by the story of Adam and Eve, humans are continually tricked into looking elsewhere to become like God. 

We are inherently distrust of God’s laws of the way things ought to be; and so we are tempted to look in places other than God’s Word to determine parameters of human flourishing. We look to physical strength, accumulation of wealth, self-preservation at all costs, limited compassion, principles of scarcity, any number of “-isms,” artificial boundaries separating people who are in from people who are out, and so on. 

There are natural consequences to our lawlessness. Scripture tells many stories of how disaster falls on people who are unable to follow the law of the way things ought to be. Recall all the stories of floods, conquest, slavery, terrible leaders, and retribution delivered on future generations. 

God, however, is not punitive in nature. Instead, God continually seeks new ways to impress upon us the importance of following the law of the way things ought to be. For example, we have the Ten Commandments – a framework meant to keep our attention on God’s role as our sole provider. The Ten Commandments are not punitive but rather instructive. 

And yet we continually disregard God’s Word in favor of short-sighted solutions that benefit our personal well-being over and above the well-being of our fellow humans. Let’s call this the “law of the way we want things to be.” Or you could call it by a more familiar name – sin.

This is where the gospel comes in. The good news is that God is one of us – a fully divine, fully human known as Jesus – the way, the truth, the life. One who came into the world not to condemn the world but to save it by showing the way to move beyond our original sin and instead tap into the original divinely-proclaimed original goodness of all people.

The great irony is that Jesus, grace incarnate, was convicted of breaking the law and was put to death under the law. The one who came to remind us of the law of the way things ought to be, was killed by people who instead chose the law of the way we want things to be – a perversion of the law that seeks self-preservation above divine revelation (a.k.a., sin).

Suffice to say Christians have a complicated relationship with laws. Christ-followers are subject to the human laws of whatever country they reside, only insofar as they do not conflict with the divine law of the way things ought to be.

The history books are full of stories of Christians standing up against unjust laws. And tragically, the history books are full of stories of Christians dreaming up, enacting, and enforcing unjust laws. For example, for every one Christian that fought against racial segregation in the United States, there were dozens more Christians who had a role in the origination and enforcement of that law.

I felt it necessary to start with that systematic theology primer because I think it could help you make sense of something that might have surprised you this week.

Earlier this week President Trump terminated the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA. The original initiative was an executive order from President Obama in 2012 that sought to take away the threat or possibility of deportation for people who were not born in the US but while under 16 years of age had been brought to the US illegally. Eligibility requirements included being full-time students or workers, as well as a clear criminal history. To date, approx. 800,000 people have been accepted into this program and are working or studying.

Today these people fear that in six months they will be deported to countries wholly unfamiliar to them, forced to leave behind their education, employment, dreams, and families.

For many people, the issue is cut and dry, black and white. These “dreamers” as they are referred, are not legal citizens and therefore are simply not allow to be in this country. Critics of DACA see the initiative as a subversion of the rule of law. 

As news of the program’s termination broke, I wonder if you were struck by how many religious institutions came out with statements condemning the decision. Did you wonder what was behind the swift and poignant responses coming from traditionally conservative as well as traditionally liberal Judeo-Christian denominations and agencies?

This morning I wanted to present a couple of these statements to you so that together we can try to understand the principles on which religious institutions are basing their pro-DACA stances.

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops call DACA’s cancellation “reprehensible,” “unacceptable,” a step backwards, and “un-American.” They say the repeal of DACA is an “absence of mercy and good will, and a short-sighted vision for the future.” They posit all this from the perspective of a church who has ministered to and with DACA youth whom they characterize as hopeful, hard-working. They cite Mark 9:37 as a foundational concept for their outrage.

President Trump has a team of spiritual advisors composed entirely of conservative evangelicals, most of whom advised him to keep DACA in place. Here is a statement from one of his advisors, Samuel Rodriguez.

“As a pastor, I cannot sit idly by while the federal government threatens to forcibly separate families by deportation. In the Scriptures, we read the timeless words, ‘Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.’ (Mark 10:9) It is no individual’s or government’s place to rip families apart, let alone millions of them. The scope of this crisis is simply breathtaking.”

So too,  the statement from our Bishop, Elizabeth Eaton, lays out the sanctity of family as a foundation for preserving DACA. She also acknowledges that the Dreamers are people who enhance churches, schools, and entire communities. 

Here’s another statement from another conservative. He cites the Biblical legacy of migrants and the expectation for hospitality that it set.

There are many more statement, but you hopefully get the point. Faith leaders across the spectrum identify in God’s Word various reasons for our country to make every effort to keep the Dreamers in this country. They cite the importance of welcoming of youth, showing hospitality to strangers, preserving the sanctity of the family unit, recognizing the Biblical legacy of migrants, exiles, and immigrants, as well as the value of the dreamers as human beings. 

Institutions who take a stand against the President’s actions do so with a recognition that the value of these human lives is a matter of law of the way things ought to be – a divine law that trumps human law.  

Or, in the words of Paul from today’s lesson in the Book of Romans, “Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law…. [the commandments] are summed up in this word, ”Love your neighbor as yourself.””

Love is the reason why faith leaders insist that the Dreamers should stay. Love is the reason why I join my voice to theirs in standing with the Dreamers. 

So, in case you were wondering what all the fuss was about this week, it was because faith leaders felt compelled to speak out against a decision that will have disastrous consequences on the lives of human beings who are just as valuable in the eyes of God as you or I.  

You might be offended that I addressed this "political" topic at all during worship. This issue, however, is profoundly theological and requires us all to wrestle with it and I can think of no more appropriate place than here to do so. So let's have a conversation. If you disagree with me, tell me where you think I've gone off the rails. I will listen to you as you have done for me this morning. This is a conversation that needs to take place and I think Cross of Grace can model constructive dialog for the rest of our community.

Amen.